Refik Anadol, the visionary Turkish artist who captivated millions with his ground-breaking MoMA installation Unsupervised, is now shaping the future of art and technology with the opening of the world’s first AI art museum, Dataland, in Los Angeles in 2025.
Recently recognized at the prestigious 2025 TIME100 Impact Awards, Anadol has spent nearly two decades pushing the boundaries of art and technology, transforming raw data and artificial intelligence into immersive, multisensory experiences. “This is a human-first endeavor,” Anadol explains in this exclusive interview, emphasizing his belief in the power of AI as a partner, not a replacement, in the creative process.
You garnered global attention and made headlines with your monumental work Unsupervised – Machine Hallucinations at MoMA and you are about to make history by opening the world’s first AI art museum. What inspired you to create Dataland? What do you hope it will bring to the broader art and technology landscapes?
First of all, I’m so excited to share, especially as an artist practicing with data since 2008 and working with AI for almost a decade, I feel like it was this wonderful moment that finally the many technologies that we have been using as humanity started to converge. The art world remarkably may take time to observe, embrace, and understand these new technologies, but as an artist, working with data and AI, to me, it was just a very natural response to the life-changing landscape of humanity. Our MoMA show received 3 million people who spent an average of 38 minutes of experience. My partner Efsun and I thought about how we can push this medium forward to a place where we can contribute by understanding, presenting, exhibiting, collecting, and educating this specific medium. So I’ve been a teacher for the last 10 years at UCLA, and I have been in education as a professor, as a teacher, and as a still student. I feel that it’s very important to talk about AI to the world and explain this technology.
So we not only just talk, but we also create our own AI models, such as the large nature model, which was at the UN recently, the World Economic Forum, and many other places. We thought that we could create this very exciting platform and environment for anyone and everyone, and we will open the first location in Los Angeles, California next year. So it took us two years to design, imagine, create infrastructure, and create the AI that the museum needs.
It’s a lot of amazing work, but I’m so excited that this will be one of the first in the world that people will be able to see and feel the dreams of AI.
Where and when exactly will it open?
In downtown Los Angeles, in the Frank Gehry building next to Walt Disney Concert Hall, which is a cultural corridor where we have the MOCA Museum, Broad Museum, Disney Hall, and Data-land. The city of Los Angeles is supporting us, and incredible local artists, and many people in the tech industry, the entertainment industry. We have wonderful partners. We are hoping for Q3. I will share more about that as soon as April.
How will the world’s first AI art museum, push the boundaries of traditional art spaces and change how people connect with digital art?
So, the best way to explain this, is if you look at our former exhibits in Casa Batlló, Gaudí’s building, it is immersive. I’ve been preparing this mindset for 16 years. So the idea of data becomes a pigment, but this data is not just numbers, it’s a form of memory that can take any shape, any form, and light and data, and AI becomes a material that we can project and reconstruct, build environments. I’ve been awaiting these experiments and doing this for many years. I feel that people will truly be immersed in something extraordinary, something emotional, and something human first. So my work is all about “human first”.
So I don’t believe that feature with just machine does the creative thing we do. I do believe that the future is human-machine collaboration, and I’m trying to make it as 50% and 50% possible, and truly analyze this new medium through the lens of the most cutting-edge technologies: sound, image, and even smell.
So as a studio, we created the very first AI artwork using real-time video, audio, and scent molecules for the past four years, and we have been practicing this idea of not only seeing and hearing but also smelling and feeling this new genre, this new era. So, we have created AI perfumes and AI sense in the last four years. So many, so many unexpected things, I will say. There will be a lot of amazing things in Dataland that I don’t think ever came together.
With AI reshaping art, where do you see this fusion of technology and creativity going in the next decade?
I think what is incredibly inspiring with AI is a form of thinking brush. So, for the last 10 years, I have always collected our own data and trained our own AI models. So I’ve been practicing in a very different mindset. And I’m approaching this medium as more like an atelier, meaning we work with more than 5 billion images so far, hundreds of thousands of articles, and more. In all our AI projects, as soon as we have this data, we have a lot of curation and a lot of care for AI models which I think is very important for the next steps of this journey. I don’t believe the ready tools and ready systems are enough for breakthroughs for artists.
I think artists will eventually need to train their own models and collect their own data in the long run. So I do hope that we will be able to do these platforms as quickly as possible so that it doesn’t stay only on the very high entities and big entities. I think artists will need to play, break, and reimagine these tools, because we always ask the question as artists, what is beyond reality? And I think AI is one of those systems and technology can be a tool to answer this new imagination, and I’m calling this new medium generative reality. It’s not AR, it’s not VR, it’s not XR, I think we are generating realities in every inferencing and interaction with AI models. So, I think we are entering a new era. We will question what is real, and we will question what is creativity.
As AI gets more sophisticated, who deserves credit for AI-generated works, the machine or the creator behind it?
I don’t think it’s one way or another because I believe that we are becoming writers of writers, artists of artists, scientists of scientists. Who won the Nobel Prize Award for protein folding is a human, not AI, but a human who used AI to enhance human creativity and humanity’s science to the next level. I think it is very clear that it is possible to recognize who is using AI for which conditions. So I think it’s very possible to clearly articulate in which conditions AI is helping humanity.
This should be the same for art. If the artist is creating their own models, if the artist is pushing their own techniques, if the artist is creating their own data sets, I do believe the artist is the artist. AI is just an extension of the mind as a form of collaborator. If we need to give credit to a brush, a thinking brush, we should.